TRIUMPH BD-250 - some questions...

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TRIUMPH BD-250 - some questions...

Beitrag von _STORM » 12 Mai 2020: 00 51

Hello!

I have TRIUMPH BD-250 (WH?) with engine's serial ~266000, not complete.
Serial on the frame - now not readed (is under several coats of paint, last - looks like a WH).

Please - help me with some questions.
1. As i understand - it's from SERIE-1 (frame can be separated + toolbox is located at the tank) - RIGHT?
If Yes - rear parts of frame should be as "separated" too?
Vertical boot strut - detachable or combined with rear part of the frame?

It was made as a civyl, or specially for WH? (How to paint?)
Frame's serial should be the same as engine's?

2. About driver's footrests. At many pictures - axis for mounting on the sub-frame -is as a hexagon. But my sub-frame has round holes. It's right? How das original footrests (and other it's parts) should look for my case?

3. Electric's parts.
How (and where) batterie should be mounted?
How looks front/rear lights and signal (and it's types)?

4. I need some parts (are absent) - rear part of frame, end part of the rear fender, black dampher with logo for the front fork, crossbar, parts for it and for it's mounting on the front fork, axis for rear wheel (or it's sizes), chain's guard (both parts - uppper and down), and some other...

I will be grateful for the answers and help.

Regards
Serge

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Re: TRIUMPH BD-250 - some questions...

Beitrag von 125T » 12 Mai 2020: 22 33

Hello, Serge!
My name is Gabriel and I am from Romania.
Your motorcycle is a Serie-1 Wehrmacht BD250 from 1941.
You have all the details about your motorcycle here:
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http://www.meisterdinger.de/phpBB3/view ... f=6&t=2981
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Best regards!

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Re: TRIUMPH BD-250 - some questions...

Beitrag von _STORM » 12 Mai 2020: 23 56

Hello!

Thank You for the answer!
It's hard days now under COVID-actions, aI am faraway of my TRIUMPH (and others) now. City is closed for free moving to people without special papers, so very hard to plan something serious until the end of May.
I began to study Your excellent story (and collecting pictures).

Hope - next week I 'll take in hands toolbox/airfilter (over 1 month at the post-office yet).
:)

Regards (and wishes of a good health)

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Re: TRIUMPH BD-250 - some questions...

Beitrag von 125T » 13 Mai 2020: 09 34

Hello, Serge!
Another few answers for you:
- These motorcycles has no number stamped on the frame.
There are numbers only on two plates (one in front of the frame and one in the middle of the frame, under the saddle - you will find there, on the right side, two small holes for that plate).
- The numbers are the same on the frame and engine (matching numbers). So if you have the number on the engine it is very good.
- The parts for these motorcycles are very rare and very expensive. It it will be better if you upload some pictures here to see what parts you are missing.
- There were only 1000 BD250 Civil motorcycles made during 1938 (all painted red bordeaux) and 13.500 BD250 Wehrmacht motorcycles made between 1939 - 1943 (painted in WH colors - one more predominant, but this is another discussion).
After the War, there were another 450 BD250 Wehrmacht motorcycles produced between 1946-1949 (all painted black).

Best regards!

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Re: TRIUMPH BD-250 - some questions...

Beitrag von _STORM » 13 Mai 2020: 15 34

THANK YOU!
I have front fork - here this number-plate is missing.
At the frame - coat of painting, I 'll try at june to remove it at the place under the saddle.

I received this set as:
- front fork (without holders for the light) + wheel+fender, but cross-bar - is absent (at all);
- front part of frame + subframe for engine;
- engine (without right cover)
- rear fender (without the end-part) + luggage (damaged a little)
- rear wheel (without the axis)
- and some little parts.

Some parts (BING, right cover, spring for saddle (not completed)) - already found.
Airfilter/oiltank - waits me at post-office.
Pictures I 'll upload later...

Please - 2 more questions:
- what serials/date was for TYPE2 at the beginning?
- are rear parts of frame the same for BD-250/TYPE1 and B2**/B3** ? They looks near the same, I suppose - differ with holders for toolbox. Or - something more else?

THANK YOU!

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Re: TRIUMPH BD-250 - some questions...

Beitrag von 125T » 13 Mai 2020: 21 58

Hello!

1. Belive me, your number is from a Serie1 BD.
2. Serie1 BD rear-frame/rear-end it is very different from the Serie2.
3. You must upload some pictures. I've seen Serie2 BD with a Serie1 number on it, because the number on the engine it is stamped on the detachable part of the engine. That part fits the Serie1 and the Serie2 too.

Best regards!
Gabriel

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Re: TRIUMPH BD-250 - some questions...

Beitrag von _STORM » 15 Mai 2020: 21 44

1. I beleive, of course!
:)
My friend is seriously interesting in such data - her TRIUMPH is "combined" from sepaarated parts...

2. I know. May be - sombody compared rear parts of frame for BD250WH-1 and B200/B300?
Looks near to be the same (except holders for toolbox)...

3. Next week - I'l try to upload, if it'll be possible. Not a good INet connection now...

PS. OilTank - arrived and received (over 1 month at post-office)! Air-filter is absent, right cover - corrupted seriously...

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Re: TRIUMPH BD-250 - some questions...

Beitrag von 125T » 16 Mai 2020: 09 36

Hello!

1. So the motorycle it is not yours, but of a friend of yours.
Regarding the Serie1 and Serie2 numbers:
Serie1 was made from 1939 until 1941. Serie1 was made from 1941 until 1943.
So, as you can see, in 1941 there were made both BD types. Both Serie1 and 2 are in the 268xxx numbers area for 1941, so your number 266xxx it is certainly a Serie1.

2. Triumph B204 and B254 are the only ones that have the same back as the BD (civil).
I have a complete Serie1 frame, including the back/rear-end. :)

3. Pictures will help.

4. Many parts can be made...
This motocycle is mine too and both parts (right side cover and air filter) were hand-made.
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http://www.meisterdinger.de/phpBB3/view ... f=6&t=2980


Best regards!
Gabriel

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Re: TRIUMPH BD-250 - some questions...

Beitrag von 125T » 16 Mai 2020: 09 51

Serie2 was made from 1941 until 1943 (sorry for the mistake - too much speed at the writting :lol: ).

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Re: TRIUMPH BD-250 - some questions...

Beitrag von _STORM » 16 Mai 2020: 13 58

I asked about Serials for TYPE2 at many places before - no direct answers. At all...
I spent much time for searches, may be - the answer is possible? Das this information presented somewhere? It's interesting to understand - how much ones were produced for each years?

That's - not alone "question without an answer".
Also I have NSU251WH - SPECIAL (the laterest type of NSU-251 for WH - without using any AL-materials, replaced by the steel).
All label-plates are absent - so I can't check it's part's consistance to original). And I haven't any information about this "limited" serie, that have some unique differences.

PS. One more friend has a BD250 too. He began his project many years old, so I asked him first about this.
But he doen't pay attention for that difference at all, and tell: - My world - my rules!
:)

That's BD - were popular here many years ago. Due to it's specific design - no any chances for rebuilding engine without original parts, so most of them were disassembled and utilizied until 1990-th...

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Re: TRIUMPH BD-250 - some questions...

Beitrag von 125T » 17 Mai 2020: 21 55

Hello, Serge!

You want to know a lot of things about a rare motorcycle. Rare means almost no information.
But I will try to help you, because I know how it is to want/need some answers and nobody to answer.
1939 - 1501 BD250 motorcycles made, Serie1;
1940 - 3000 BD250 motorcycles made, Serie1;
1941 - 3000 BD250 motorcycles made, Serie1 and Serie2.
During 1941, there were probably only 565 Serie1 motorcycles made and 2435 Serie2.
In my opinion, these Serie1 BD's made in 1941 had already the fenders (front fender and rear fender) like the Serie2 (which is a different model).
So yes, I think that there were some Serie1 BD's who had the same fenders like the Serie2 BD's.
1942 - 3000 BD250 motorcycles made, Serie2;
1943 - 2500 BD250 motorcycles made, Serie2.
Please keep in mind that these informations are not 100% accurate.

Best regards!
Gabriel

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Re: TRIUMPH BD-250 - some questions...

Beitrag von _STORM » 17 Mai 2020: 22 51

Thank You!

Please see attach - M - means MOTOR (ENGINE)?

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Re: TRIUMPH BD-250 - some questions...

Beitrag von _STORM » 25 Mai 2020: 16 19

Isolation - no chances to leave home now for working at workshop...

Tried to clean (a little) oil-tank.
Looks like NON-WH (painting - original, I think) - right?
Right cover (not presented here) - is corrupted, and inside - painted as classic-WH-colour). Thinking about to select - to restore or to make a new one...

The rests of oil - presented inside. If to try hear it - real oil with many-many years old!
Yes - it's real nice!
:)
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